Prologos, I was addressing givemejustalittlemoretime, not you. Sorry
Captain Obvious
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Is there Such a Thing as TIme
by givemejustalittlemoretime inthe present moment is real.
however much you may remember the past or anticipate the future, you live in the present.
the next second of your life is the future.
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Captain Obvious
Who else evangelizes to the extent that each and every JW does?
Lots of evangelicals, etc. some groups do it with charity instead of bothering people at home. Hell, the baptist church has almost as many missionaries as the JWs have members! Maybe they're god's org?
What do you think would happen if preaching were made less of a show? Take away pioneer designations, counting hours, etc. you'd see millions of JWs cut back, and millions more quit preaching altogether. Every cult pushes hard on recruitment. That's the only way they stay alive.
a watcher, how is it that god's organization is doing so much preaching, but barely any recruitment? Over half of born in children don't get baptized, and over 100,000 people LEAVE every year. How is this a sign of divine direction and blessing?
Please reply as I've never heard a decent answer to this.
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Captain Obvious
Let the memes begin!
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Is there Such a Thing as TIme
by givemejustalittlemoretime inthe present moment is real.
however much you may remember the past or anticipate the future, you live in the present.
the next second of your life is the future.
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Captain Obvious
You sure do make an effort to sound smart!
Troll
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PEER PRESSURE!!! I gave in to Pioneering during August...I feel dirty...
by stuckinarut2 inok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).
but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.
yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......
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Captain Obvious
Ah. Just show up for the morning group, claim to have a couple calls to do, and head out for your 10:30 tee time at your favourite course. August is too nice to waste sweating into your suit clothes knocking on doors and bothering people.
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If You Can Get Out Of The Jehovah's Witness Religion---DO IT!
by minimus ini realize some people feel they can't just leave the religion.
they have family, friends, position.. some elders mistakenly believe that they might be able to reform the cult from within.
the truth is, the religion is never really going to change.
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Captain Obvious
So let me put it out to my fellow JWNers.
I woke up early 2012. Took my time, devouring all info I could about why and how to leave this religion. I hide nothing from my wife, who knows exactly how I feel. She remains on the sidelines for fear of losing family and friends, and as a result has done no research about anything non-JW. She doesn't want to be a JW without me per se, but puts out relationship above all else. We have very few close JW friends nearby, we go to maybe one meeting a month and she goes maybe 2 hrs/month in service.
My question: is it better for me to continue loosely affiliated, hoping she starts to research? Do I push the issue more? Or do I quit going altogether, lose my one remaining (good) JW friend and hopefully pushing her hand? Is the potential gain in intellectual honesty with myself worth the potential fallout with my wife?
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Checkmate WT!
by ILoveTTATT inas a lot of you know, i am making a catalog of all the articles and quotes that the wt used to make the creation book.
i want to see all the quotes for myself, if possible.. i went to my university today, and i got some more books.. checkmate, wt!
i can now check every single quote, almost without regard to how obscure or rare the book is!.
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Captain Obvious
Woah! That. Is. Awesome what you're doing. So you can show the dishonest quotation in the creation book? Is that it?
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Silence after stating my confusion about "144,000"
by tidalblitz inthe other night, i was told about a question that a friend's bible study had asked them.
the bible study asked: "if jesus is perfect, why does he need the 144,000 to help him rule?
" this friend does not know how to answer this question.
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Captain Obvious
I don't think that's quite accurate per current JW doctrine. The particular cutoff in time no longer applies. The 144k are just "chosen" at some point in life. Proof of this would be the 49 something GB member
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They continue to drop like flies
by suavojr inyes, the jws continue to bleed their young ones, so far in my local kh 3 were dfd, one girl just turned 18 this month and packed her bags and said goodbye to the cult and her cultish parents, another young 18 year old man decided to have a non-jw girlfriend and decided to stop attending and is no longer a witness.
they continue to leave and wt leaders dont give a damn.
they dont do anything to help kids be successful and live a healthy life.. .
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Captain Obvious
Well they DO give a damn. Thats why we see the youth-aimed videos and such being ramped up. They're trying to lock them in early as possible.
Show me a talk by Tony Morris in the last few years that hasn't included the strong encouragement to be baptized at 13 or 14.
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Android or iPad? Help please.
by Xanthippe init seems i am going to have to teach people to use a tablet as part of my job and i don't even have one!
any advice would be most helpful please.. i keep reading blurb on amazon etc and now i'm really confused.
what should i buy?
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Captain Obvious
If it's for work you may have to buy both! But IMO the iPad is extremely easy to use.